'One can only lack belief in something if one is either cowardly or unimaginative? That's just ridiculous.
Feel free to imagine other worlds if you like - I do, and I enjoy doing so. But I don't pretend they bear any resemblance to reality unless there's some indication that they do so - wishing for things doesn't make them real.'
I apologise, I didn't mean to accuse anyone of cowardice but to point out that faith requires you to make the leap - and this is where the bravery comes in - to imagine that there might be something else.
Faith does not come from a place of logic or proof. It is idiotic to try to suggest that you can disprove God with logic, especially since God is not an easily definable entity. God probably doesn't exist? First define God.
I also believe that everyone should be free to believe in what they do so long as there is an openness to other's points of view, and so long as nobody puts anyone down. If you argue that the bus campaign is valid then I'm sorry, but a retaliating campaign that said 'God probably exists. Now think about things and enjoy life' would be equally valid.
faith requires you to make the leap - and this is where the bravery comes in - to imagine that there might be something else.
I can _imagine_ many many things. I've written, discussed and roleplayed all sorts of bizarre possibilities. I just don't see any reason to connect them to reality.
GoIt is idiotic to try to suggest that you can disprove God with logic The burden of proof lies upon the person claiming that they do. If I stated that polka-dotted swans existed, while someone else argued that they probably didn't, would you not agree that it was down to me to provide a photo of a swan with polka dots, or on them to provide evidence that they didn't exist?
Faith does not come from a place of logic or proof. Exactly, it's believing things without any evidence of them. i.e. fantasy and wish-fulfillment.
I'd agree that the other argument would be a perfectly good thing to put on a bus - I'd have no problem with it at all. In fact I'd expect it to link to something that me a reason to believe that "probably" and be very dissapointed if there wasn't some kind of documentary proof.
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Re: Some questions and some requests for clarification
Date: 2009-01-11 10:47 pm (UTC)Feel free to imagine other worlds if you like - I do, and I enjoy doing so. But I don't pretend they bear any resemblance to reality unless there's some indication that they do so - wishing for things doesn't make them real.'
I apologise, I didn't mean to accuse anyone of cowardice but to point out that faith requires you to make the leap - and this is where the bravery comes in - to imagine that there might be something else.
Faith does not come from a place of logic or proof. It is idiotic to try to suggest that you can disprove God with logic, especially since God is not an easily definable entity. God probably doesn't exist? First define God.
I also believe that everyone should be free to believe in what they do so long as there is an openness to other's points of view, and so long as nobody puts anyone down. If you argue that the bus campaign is valid then I'm sorry, but a retaliating campaign that said 'God probably exists. Now think about things and enjoy life' would be equally valid.
Re: Some questions and some requests for clarification
Date: 2009-01-11 10:58 pm (UTC)I can _imagine_ many many things. I've written, discussed and roleplayed all sorts of bizarre possibilities. I just don't see any reason to connect them to reality.
GoIt is idiotic to try to suggest that you can disprove God with logic
The burden of proof lies upon the person claiming that they do. If I stated that polka-dotted swans existed, while someone else argued that they probably didn't, would you not agree that it was down to me to provide a photo of a swan with polka dots, or on them to provide evidence that they didn't exist?
Faith does not come from a place of logic or proof.
Exactly, it's believing things without any evidence of them. i.e. fantasy and wish-fulfillment.
I'd agree that the other argument would be a perfectly good thing to put on a bus - I'd have no problem with it at all. In fact I'd expect it to link to something that me a reason to believe that "probably" and be very dissapointed if there wasn't some kind of documentary proof.